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Dr. Clayton Baker

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

It may be really due more to babesiosis and Rocky Mountain spotted fever, which they were also concerned. supposedly monkeying around within that lab at the same time. So it may be sort of a hodgepodge of things that people sometimes are afflicted with when they get these deer tick bites. So just crazy stuff. And I would just say this is circumstantial evidence to be sure.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

It may be really due more to babesiosis and Rocky Mountain spotted fever, which they were also concerned. supposedly monkeying around within that lab at the same time. So it may be sort of a hodgepodge of things that people sometimes are afflicted with when they get these deer tick bites. So just crazy stuff. And I would just say this is circumstantial evidence to be sure.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

But this is just one more example of the United States government. The United States military has a long and deplorable history of weapons research going back to World War II. And a lot of these terrible things that have happened, RSV, Lyme, as we discussed, both are basically lab accidents or lab leaks from the United States military.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

But this is just one more example of the United States government. The United States military has a long and deplorable history of weapons research going back to World War II. And a lot of these terrible things that have happened, RSV, Lyme, as we discussed, both are basically lab accidents or lab leaks from the United States military.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

So we have a proud history of afflicting the world with terrible illnesses due to our fooling around with pathogens.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

So we have a proud history of afflicting the world with terrible illnesses due to our fooling around with pathogens.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

Yeah, the lesson I took away in terms of our government from COVID was how dangerously close we came to what Dr. Li Ming is describing over in China. Now, there was more than one person who expressed admiration in our public health community superstructure during COVID about the ability of the Chinese to simply lock down society 100%.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

Yeah, the lesson I took away in terms of our government from COVID was how dangerously close we came to what Dr. Li Ming is describing over in China. Now, there was more than one person who expressed admiration in our public health community superstructure during COVID about the ability of the Chinese to simply lock down society 100%.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

The notion of civil rights, the notion of civil liberties seem to be null and void. I think we came very dangerously close to heading in that direction. And I think that's a real lesson. We have checks and balances in our country. But I think that we came very dangerously close to losing a lot of those.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

The notion of civil rights, the notion of civil liberties seem to be null and void. I think we came very dangerously close to heading in that direction. And I think that's a real lesson. We have checks and balances in our country. But I think that we came very dangerously close to losing a lot of those.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

When you saw the degree of censorship that we underwent in the social media world, we were marginalized. I mean, I was absolutely marginalized in terms of being able to get a message out to people. You know, I had two friends who were arrested during COVID for protesting the masking and social distancing in schools in upstate New York.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

When you saw the degree of censorship that we underwent in the social media world, we were marginalized. I mean, I was absolutely marginalized in terms of being able to get a message out to people. You know, I had two friends who were arrested during COVID for protesting the masking and social distancing in schools in upstate New York.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

Two of them, one of them for not wearing the mask properly at a school board meeting and one for not wearing a mask at a baseball game outdoors and refusing to put one on.

Ask Dr. Drew
Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

Two of them, one of them for not wearing the mask properly at a school board meeting and one for not wearing a mask at a baseball game outdoors and refusing to put one on.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

So, you know, we're really not that far away. You know, we I had a standoff with our superintendent and he chose to eat a few other people and he chose to cancel the meeting rather than have us arrested. This is in Rochester, New York. This isn't, you know. This isn't where you would think this type of stuff was going on, but it was going on.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

So, you know, we're really not that far away. You know, we I had a standoff with our superintendent and he chose to eat a few other people and he chose to cancel the meeting rather than have us arrested. This is in Rochester, New York. This isn't, you know. This isn't where you would think this type of stuff was going on, but it was going on.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

And so we were dangerously close to something very, very much like a sort of a soft core version of what Dr. Li Ming describes and what she lived through in China. So I think that, you know, you have to be a little bit ungovernable after what we went through and a little bit more unwilling to simply fall in line. I think that's an important lesson.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

And so we were dangerously close to something very, very much like a sort of a soft core version of what Dr. Li Ming describes and what she lived through in China. So I think that, you know, you have to be a little bit ungovernable after what we went through and a little bit more unwilling to simply fall in line. I think that's an important lesson.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

I appreciate what she's saying, but as an American who operates under the notion that the Bill of Rights is in effect, how many parts of the Bill of Rights were just tossed out the window during the lockdowns? Certainly, to a large extent, the First Amendment was. And certainly freedom of worship, freedom of ability to assemble. This was really just torched.

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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

I appreciate what she's saying, but as an American who operates under the notion that the Bill of Rights is in effect, how many parts of the Bill of Rights were just tossed out the window during the lockdowns? Certainly, to a large extent, the First Amendment was. And certainly freedom of worship, freedom of ability to assemble. This was really just torched.