Dr. James Lindsay
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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast · 544. When the Right Goes Too Far | Dr. James Lindsay · 5 May 2025
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You remember in the gospel account, when Christ is in the desert, the third temptation that Satan lays before him is the temptation of power.
Right.
Right, right, right. So that seemed, okay, so you don't have any problem with the underlying dynamic of that. No, not at all.
The crisis.
There's a number of people operating like that at the moment. Yeah, that's right.
Well, we've got a hierarchy there. It's Luciferian at the core, Then we've got the cluster B dark tetrad traits. Then there's the mechanisms that you described, right? So that's a differentiated – that gives us a way of identifying.
Well, and that is also an unbelievably effective move on the psychopathic side, because the basic criminal attitude is, and I've dealt with criminal types quite a lot, it's pretty straightforward. It's it's perfectly fine for me to take what you have because you took it. Yeah, that's right. Right, and so Marx has just nailed that perfectly. That's exactly what it is. That's property is theft.
As soon as property is theft, The criminal is the moral agent. And that happened in the Soviet Union, right? Because in the prisons, the criminals were treated as moral agents, whereas the political prisoners were treated as, you know, what would you say? The kinds of heretics who deserve nothing but the longest possible sentence and some death. Right. Because the criminals were victims.
If property is theft, criminals are victims. That's a hell of a...
So that libertine offering is an interesting twist. I've been trying to puzzle out. I wrote this article with Jonathan Paggio on the scarlet beast of the apocalypse. And it was really illuminating to me. There's lots of the book of Revelation. I just don't understand me and many other people. But I understand some of it. So the scarlet beast is the degenerate state.
So imagine that when a uniting principle disappears, so that would be the Nietzschean death of God. you get the postmodern condition, which is that there's no uniting narrative. And so the state grows a lot of different heads. It's kind of a hydra now. It's collapsing into chaos, symbolically speaking. It has a lot of different heads because nothing's uniting it.
And that's why it's blood red, because that's a very dangerous condition. It's a fragmenting condition. Okay, so that's the scarlet beast of the degenerate state. This is a symbol of the end of times. And I don't mean... the end of time per se. This is a symbol of how things end, right? Always, always.
Right. I follow you. Okay, fine. So the state deteriorates till it's a multi-headed hydra, okay? But then it has something on its back, and that's the whore of Babylon. Yeah, the mother of all prostitutes. So the idea there is that when the patriarchal state or psyche loses its central function, female sexuality commoditizes. Right, and we can see that's like just happening everywhere right now.
OnlyFans is the greatest example of that. That woman in Great Britain who's sleeping with like 100 men a night, or I think she managed 1,000 in a week, something like that. I won't say her name, but she's become very well known for the absolute outrageousness of her behavior. Her mother is her business manager. It's so awful that you just can't believe it. Okay, so you have this...
mother of all prostitutes so that's the central spirit of commoditized female sexuality that's going to happen when the state deteriorates of course female sexuality is going to commoditize when the state loses its protective and integrative function and so she offers this libertine pleasure, right?
So you could think of power, that's a way that power, that's what power offers to those who are willing to use power. It's like, why do you want control over someone? Well, to have your way with them, obviously, and there's gonna be a sexual component to that. That was certainly the case in Marx's own life, for example.
So you can imagine the fantasies that possessed him too would be, well, once we establish this new utopia, and the communists promised free love. It's a common leftist, as if it's love, which it isn't, and as if sex is free, which it never is. What happens at the end of the scarlet beast, whore of Babylon dichotomy, say, interaction is the beast kills the prostitute. So that's perfect, right?
Because so the degenerate, the degenerative patriarchal state breeds the commoditization of female sexuality, but ultimately destroys all pleasure. And I also think that's happening now. I mean, you have radically high rates of virginity, for example, among Japanese and South Koreans and in the West more broadly.
a breakdown, an apparent breakdown of the relationship between men and women, not least politically, right? With the men starting to fly off into the conservative sphere of influence and the women becoming increasingly liberal. So that's another, it shows you the fact that these mythological tropes appear fitting, shows you how deep the malaise is, right?
The culture war is way deeper than the political.
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