Dr. Kelly Brogan

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Healing + Human Potential · The Truth About Women's Health + Mind Body Healing | EP 69 · 31 Dec 2024 podcast

And the most important thing I would put on the list these days is a relaxed system, that isn't otherwise available through the the habits that we have of relating to ourselves with and through rejection.

Yes. And this has been the through line, I guess, in my work from the health reclamation side of things. I was diagnosed with an autoimmune, so-called autoimmune condition called Hashimoto's thyroiditis, what feels like a million lifetimes ago now, after my first pregnancy. And I was a completely, like total normie, like a completely...

in the matrix like card carrying cult member of the allopathic medical system. And somehow I had this dissonant inner opportunity arise that, you know, where I just said, I don't want to take a prescription for the rest of my life. Like I am not interested.

And I also had a lot of patients at the time who were on Synthroid and were taking a thyroid support medication and they just didn't ever really feel well. So I also had that disincentive. And so that set me off. My investment in not taking a prescription for the rest of my life set me off on

on this path to exploring what my other option was, which was to stay with myself, to be on the team of my own body and to see what the message was like, why the hell is this happening? Like, what does it mean in my narrative that I have developed, um, you know, these symptoms postpartum and that I could, you know, view this as, um, my body is broken. Something is wrong with me. I need to fix it.

So colluding against the body, typically with the conventional medical system, is so programmed into our awareness that I actually have quite a small group of colleagues who have broken out of that.

So it's so rare that even if you understand a lot of victim dynamics in relationship, so you understand the zero-sum game of a romantic partnership, wherever you are finger-pointing and blaming your partner, you're fundamentally undermining the capacity that this union has to offer you the experience that you want. A lot of people can start to get that. How can I stay on my partner's team?

How can we repair in this relationship? more coherent way. Well, often that invites you to learn self containment and emotional mastery and taking responsibility and the kind of shadow integration you and I were just discussing. But for whatever reason, applying that same rubric to the body is very, very, very challenging.

And I could come up with all sorts of metaphysical reasons why that is the way it is. But most people, when they experience some symptom, I mean, whether it's like a migraine or something more, they find a lump in their breast or their hair is falling out. They need it to stop. They need it to go away.

And they come into their child energy that says somebody outside, help me, fix me, like make this experience of being in this body this way, stop. And so what happens is you end up in that victim triangle, like you end up colluding with a rescuer of some variety. And this could be literally a supplement to

So it could be anything that you have decided has the power to fix you and to make what your body is doing stop. You collude with that against yourself. And so that self-betrayal, that triangulation against the self ends up being the foundational premise from which you are then trying to inhabit this body when challenging emotional things are happening relationally, right?

So I like to rewind, I guess, back to the basics. And I do think that coming into an understanding of the body's wisdom. And I don't say that like Hallmark party, right? Like, like I like truly, what would it be to live in your body where it's never a problem? Your insomnia is literally not a problem, right? Your diarrhea is not a problem. There are no problems anywhere. Right.

That your body is expressing to reprogram on that level means that you have come into an orientation towards yourself that is like a radical yes.

Well, it's interesting because I was one of the first like 300 in the world psychiatrists to specialize in medicating pregnant and breastfeeding women. Like when I was, you know, in my conventional avatar, I... believe so much in the pharma model that I actually prescribed to pregnant and breastfeeding women. That was my specialty, right? All kinds of meds.

And I had many, many, many, many women who were multiply diagnosed, which means that they had comorbidities like autoimmune conditions, lupus and, you know, rheumatoid things and bowel things. And of course, Hashimoto's extremely extremely common in the population that I was working with.

So when I was diagnosed, like I said, my no thank you was informed by what I already saw to be on offer from the system that I was aligned with. Okay. So I was not in a rejection moment yet. And my, I don't know, call it sacred laziness, whatever it was, whatever led me to not want to deal with taking a prescription was led me to a naturopath. So I went and I saw, I was in New York at the time.

I saw a naturopath and, you know, I was very identified with my like academic self at that point. And she was not like burning sage, no crystals. Okay. It was like not that kind of vibe. And that was perfect for me. So this was like a totally divinely ordained experience. And she was extremely academic, brilliant woman. And, she started me on a new diet. Okay. So I'm Italian American.

I grew up, you know, eating literally cheese and bread and McDonald's. I've always been naturally like thin, which sounds awesome, except the shadow of it is that you end up treating your body like a rental car. I mean, I never exercised a McDonald's. Like I drank six cups of coffee a day. And this was the relationship that I had to my body because I was never invited to

to have any other kind of relationship, right? So literally decades into my incarnation, I'm still figuring out what my body wants, right? So I changed my diet. And I did it because I had a why that felt more compelling than eating the bagels and pizza or whatever. And the why was the liberation from... the burden of like taking this prescription, right?

So I committed and I committed like hardcore. And I watched in the space of, I don't know. So I went on, you know, like armor thyroid, nature thyroid kind of a thing. And if you know, you know, so there's like all these different, right? I'm sure a lot of the women listening know what I'm talking about. All these different kinds of glandular versions of the prescription or whatever.

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