Dr. Kelly Brogan

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Healing + Human Potential · The Truth About Women's Health + Mind Body Healing | EP 69 · 31 Dec 2024 podcast

It's like a sacred presence that, of course, is anathema to most of us in today's society because of our collective wounds, right? Like we are entrained to look outward to assess things. our own inner safety, right? And there's a reality to that. It's called neuroception, right? Like, yeah, assess the outside. But until you've initiated yourself in this way, again, this is my bias,

You're going to see a perpetrator where there's a pile of laundry, right? You're going to see like a unicorn where there's a leaf. You're going to misperceive on both ends of the spectrum. You're going to develop relationships predicated on that. You're going to fight your body in all sorts of wild ways that end up destroying any capacity you had for wellness and vitality, right?

Like you're going to... develop all sorts of complexities. And it's not to say those are bad and wrong. It's just, it's a path and it's a kind of adventure that you're going to take and you're going to have until it's not compelling. And you're interested in like the real, um,

courageous adventure, which is to just be with yourself, show up for you and to pattern disrupt all of that programming that, um, it really narrows the bandwidth of what you're allowed to believe and be, and even hope and dream for. Like it puts such a low ceiling on all of that, you know? So there's a big metaphysical component to this that, um, You know, you can't prescribe.

You have to just arrive in the right container when it's your time. And you will, everybody will, you know, if that is the journey you're meant to go on. And obviously I offer one of those, but there's many different ways to initiate

Yeah. So I had a couple of experiences with patients. Again, once I started to focus my practice on helping women come off of medications, I had a couple of experiences of women who were completely discontinued off of all their meds. Obviously, there's an end date then to our time together, right? And they were ready to

fly the nest and go off into the, you know, wild blue yonder and live their lives without doctors and without appointments and without prescriptions and, you know, walking it over to CVS kind of a thing. And in these instances, there was like a very dramatic regression, like out of seemingly nowhere where I could start to appreciate again, because in these instances it was so dramatic.

I could start to appreciate like, oh, they're not ready. They're not ready to shed the sick identity. There's something that they're collapsing back into even though I'm trying to push them out the nest. I guess that's when I first started to explore what kinds of needs are being met by an illness that we've otherwise been told is a random, unfortunate illness

you know, emergent phenomenon of just having a body, just having a flawed human body. You know, it gets sick sometimes, shit happens kind of a thing. And this perspective obviously is very confronting for a lot of people because the, well, for the very reasons we're talking about, because having a random illness that has an ICD-10 code allows you to, to what? Take

Literally zero responsibility for the experience. And so the victim posture is built in to that diagnosis that says this thing happened to you and too bad, so sad. So most you can do is just be a good patient, take your meds, show up to your appointments. And you know, this is just, this is just life. So the defiance of that victim is,

that victim posture, I think comes through the appreciation of how being in the victim actually works. Like it meets our needs the same way, you know, drinking alcohol, even if you understand yourself to have a problem with drinking alcohol, it's meeting needs, it's working. And as long as you are in rejection of that thing and,

or obviously embrace of it, like you're not going to be able to see the relational aspects, right? So what is your relationship to your symptoms and your illness affording you? Well, usually to really reduce it down, there's yeses that we get and there's nos that we get. So the yeses that we get through a diagnosis are usually in the realm of connection, compassion, attention,

And the no's that we get are in the realm of boundaries, right? So where if you have this thing, you often don't need to learn how to say no. The other day I was thinking about this because my daughter asked me, I have teenage daughters, and my daughter asked me to drive her somewhere. I didn't feel like driving her somewhere. I live in Miami. The traffic is actually unhinged recently.

I don't even know what's happening. Everyone from LA and New York is moving here. And for me to take her somewhere 15 minutes away would have been like an hour of something and driving. And I really didn't have any good reason not to drive her. And I had this immediate thought that if I had a migraine...

or a cold or really bad, really super bad menstrual cramps or something that I could just be like, oh, I can't, I'm sick or whatever. Right. And then what would I get? I would get, first of all, off the hook. I wouldn't have to do this thing. I inexplicably didn't feel like doing or explicably didn't feel like doing. And then I would get, you know, her understanding.

and I might even get like a kind of softness and gentleness, and maybe she would be like extra nice to me or whatever. I'd get all that stuff. So I'd get the not doing the thing that I didn't want to do, and then I'd get extra bonuses, right?

So when you think about like anybody who has a chronic diagnosis, or it's not even just chronic, because I could tell you lots of stories about like, you know, things I, weird things I manifested right before I would like, start traveling with my daughters as a single woman, which I had like a lot of blocks and resistance to doing.

And so I would like develop a weird like dental pain or something like right before we're about to like take off to Paris or whatever. And so it was almost a way for me to construct subconsciously, of course, a way for them to be like, to lower their expectations a bit. And if I mess something up in a reservation here or there, like it's okay, don't bother mama, she's got this thing, right?

So when I look at it through that lens, I'm asking these questions, right? I'm asking, what do I get to say, do, and be because of this, right? What do I receive because of this? And then what do I not have to do or say or be because of this, right? So what is the utility in this seemingly obvious futile experience. Like what actually is it conferring?

What needs are being met that I just don't have the maturational, um, awareness or practice to otherwise ask for these needs and these boundaries. So I find it to be part and parcel of having these symptoms, especially if they're persistent. And so when you identify that there's a part of you that feels it needs to be this way, that feels you need to have The panic attacks.

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