Dr. Kurt Gray

What does that mean?

And that's a good question.

And that's the question that I ask, right?

Say, I don't know many Christian nationalists.

I don't know even what the typical one thinks.

And so I'd be interested to hear how your views are maybe different from that typical Christian nationalist.

And so for 20 minutes, he tells me about his views and, you know, he's a little libertarian, you know, but he believes that this is how society should be structured and how the family should work.

You know, we go through it all.

Yep.

And it's clear I'm interested.

I'm trying to understand.

I connect, I invite, I validate.

And then here's the interesting thing.

As we're pulling into the airport, we start talking about abortion.

You know, keep it contentious.

And he says, you know, I just think anyone who's pro-choice seems like they support concentration camps as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, right.

So there's this old adage that if you have a conversation about morality long enough, especially on the Internet, someone gets compared to Hitler.

And, you know, so it happened.

And what I did then was pushed back.