Dr. Kurt Gray

That's really different than, how could you vote for that person?

Tell me.

And then the third step, the V of CIB, is validate.

So once someone musters up the courage, right, and it's hard to share your beliefs, especially when you're worried someone might argue against you.

Is to validate them.

This doesn't mean agreeing with them.

It doesn't mean giving up your moral convictions.

It means doing something like saying thanks.

I appreciate you sharing that.

And if I'm listening correctly, I think this is what you're saying.

And so that's a conversation now, right?

And now they won't feel so threatened if maybe you challenge them.

And I actually have a story of having a conversation like this in an Uber.

So I'm taking Uber to the airport.

As soon as we close the door, the driver asked what I do.

I tell him I study morality and politics.

And then he basically says, oh, boy, here we go.

I have a really unique political view.

I am a Christian nationalist, but not the typical Christian nationalist.

Yeah, exactly.