Dr. Leslie K. John

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621 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 4 May

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The Mel Robbins Podcast · How to Become More Confident, Influential, and Communicate Better with #1 Harvard Business Professor · 4 May 2026 podcast

They also measured how sweaty their palms are.

So this is the galvanic skin response, which measures sweat on your fingers.

You know how when you get nervous, you get sweaty fingers.

And so that's physiological stress, kind of like objective stress, if you were to think about it that way.

And what they found was that the children who let more out on their faces, they were physiologically calmer.

Correct, correct.

Exactly, exactly.

Now, that's the awesome, like that's total revelation, right?

Now-

I am a mom of a three-year-old, my bunny's a three-year-old and a five-year-old.

And when I read this, you know, they were similar ages and to what they are now, obviously.

And the kicker though, is that the study found that once the children reached kindergarten age, there had been, there was a gender difference such that the boys were now holding it in.

So whereas when they were preschoolers, they were kind of all expressing it.

But over time, the boys had learned, and I'm using air quotes if you're listening, they had been like culturally conditioned to be stoic and like boys don't show, right?

These toxic norms we have.

And so as a boy mom, I'm, you know, a couple months ago, I saw my little three and a half year old being stoic, that face, you know, the stoic face.

And I just broke my heart.

And it's Tyler, like,

It's okay.

I may be overcompensating, but that really, really shook me.

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