Dr. Marisa G. Franco

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Something Was Wrong · S26 Ep6: Friendship, Attachment, and Betrayal with Dr. Marisa G. Franco · 15 Jul 2026 podcast

And forgiveness, I don't say is you need to forgive the other person and move forward with the relationship, but it's just being at peace with what happened.

And so what context can you add to the betrayal that doesn't make it just a single minded story of hurt?

So maybe that's this helped me recognize what I really need in a connection.

Maybe that's we had 10 good years, then the betrayal happened, but I still hold on to the fact that this friendship really made me who I am within those 10 years.

James Hillen, he has a great approach to betrayal that I think really helps me, which is that betrayal should happen.

He talks about how we have this primal trust with our parents, and we only live in the reality that we can't trust everyone and that human beings are imperfect when our parents break our trust.

So that's what leads us to sort of living in the reality of how things are.

And so it's not that when we experience betrayal, we're having this experience that's like far into being human.

We're actually having this deeply human experience.

And I think another thing that he says that is helpful is that one of the reasons why betrayal really devastates us is because it's often a sign that we were idealizing a relationship and then it fell from its grace.

And how to make it not devastate us is that we see people with complexity from the beginning, that even this friend we thought was always going to be there for us and always going to be on our side, that that's not necessarily true.

And we can tolerate that.

There's some parts of this friendship that are good and some parts that we struggle with.

And he says betrayal is a continuity of a connection rather than this jarring, unpredictable rupture that maybe there were some signs before of the incompatibility before the betrayal happened, because

If we're stuck in this narrative that, first of all, I wasted all of my time with this person, which you've probably had good moments if they were a friend, or you're stuck in this narrative like, how could this happen?

I can't even fathom it.

I'm just so confused.

This is outside of my realm of understanding.

There's probably some continuity.

There might have been some science before this.

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