Dr. Melanie Hayes

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704 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2019 last heard Feb 2022

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And people say, Oh my God, you're such a natural, you're so relaxed, uh, nobody would know you were nervous.
But but if you could see my hands, I'm I'm twitching my hands and fiddling and you know, uh when it's over, I collapse in a heap.
And and that is something that I have given myself permission to to out.
You know, it's like, yeah, I my job requires a lot of public speaking and it takes a toll on me.
And so, you know, I'm I'm really kind to myself.
I try to
space it out so that I don't do a lot of public speaking, more than one thing a week, and I give myself time off afterwards to just relax and um and and I try not to worry about it.
I've gotten a lot less worried about do I come across as a professional and do I look like I know what I'm talking about because really my work is from the heart and I'm just gonna talk
uh it's not really about my professional credentials, although that has given me the experiences I have to be able to talk about what I talk about.
But I don't see myself as any more expert in this, especially 2 EA.
The people who are 2 EA, I feel are the the most expert in this.
And all I'm trying to do is be a compassionate voice for what they
are experiencing and how I can support them.
Um and when I'm working with two EA people, I always tell them you're you're the expert in yourself and I'm here to support you and uh and and whatever you tell me I take as authentic.
So I think I've relaxed a little bit.
I've um
become a little more radical.
Um, you know, I'm not really involved in the day-to-day operations of big minds anymore, other than sort of fundraising and and outreach, but um but it it still operates as a pretty radical school for for two E people.
Um but
I think sometimes even my speaking is a little even more radical than that because I don't want people to feel like they have to fit in somewhere.
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