Dr. Richard Hogan

I don't think so.

Absurd.

And what I have, you have, you know what I mean?

I would say it's even more than that, probably.

People don't want to seem to be...

We're going to start trying to do that more.

Hello and welcome back to the podcast They Mess You Up with myself, Dr. Richard Hogan.

And myself, Dr. Ciara Kelly.

And Ciara.

I forgot what we were talking about.

This is how we live this life.

Yeah.

That's a really, really difficult... Have you lived this?

I've lived it.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Because, you know, you might grow up with somebody and you might have all that shared experience of life and all the rest of it.

And when you're in your teens and twenties and all that, you might have a really close because, you know, you you know, you might be in a serious relationship or you're as a platonic friendship, say two lads or whatever it is, or three lads, four guys hanging out in a group.

Yeah, you all hang out together and, you know, and then you move into maybe relationships.

Things get a bit more complicated.

A lot of those, you know, it's like Bob Dylan says, friends will arrive and friends will disappear.