Dr. Robert Waldinger

So what are the mini steps someone can take?

The mini steps, yeah.

So again, one of the things would be to...

to join an activity where you could do it alongside other people.

You know, so let's say there is something you really love to do.

Uh, it doesn't have to be a raucous activity.

It could be a quiet activity.

It could be knitting, but you know, you just, you, you find people to interact with in a low key way where you have something in common and an interest.

And, um, so that's one way.

Um,

Another thing is to see if you can sort of slowly develop a more trusting relationship with somebody who's a casual person in your life.

Sometimes that can happen at work.

You know, often only 30% of workers say they have a friend at work when they do these huge surveys all over the world.

Only three in 10 say they have a friend.

and most don't, right?

But there are ways to begin to see who could I explore a little bit of personal contact with, right?

Who could I start chatting with about something they have displayed on their desk?

Or who could I have lunch with once in a while and begin to strike up a relationship?

So even if you're

Yeah.