Dr. Robert Waldinger

Do you know, he did, did you watch the series?

I would have to see his face, but I know that name.

He's, he's a prominent, he's a Welsh actor, but he's been in lots of stuff.

So he did a one person show called playing Burton about his

idol who was richard burton and it was a it was an astonishing show about richard burton exploring his life and and it was just it was the most magnificent piece of acting and it was so moving because it was about you know all the ups and terrible downs of richard burton's life uh and so anyway that that was last night

Well, exactly.

I think when we realize that other people are struggling too, it's a relief.

Oh, I think my need for achievement.

Like I see how, you know.

It doesn't make us happy.

It doesn't make us happy.

And yet I find myself just looking to, you know, the next thing.

And I'm trying to manage it.

And I think my Zen practice helps that.

But it doesn't go away.

How do you manage it?

Because then there's the next thing.

You have to keep relearning it.

Like, that's the one thing I know, that these lessons I think I've learned, I have to keep relearning.

But I think, you know, so what I do now is I'm much more intentional about, you know...