Dr. Sue Varma

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1,488 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard May 2026 last heard 23 Jun

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver · Train Your Brain To Thrive Through Menopause · 23 Jun 2026 podcast

I don't do any of those things anymore.

I can just tell you right there that that's depression, right?

Like, and you need skills.

And this is called putting the cart before the horse, where we know like if when a person is depressed, they don't want to go to a party, they don't want to see a friend.

But we do know that once they see that friend, that it is so rewarding for them that it is like it's a form of an antidepressant.

So I talk about this in like the four M's of mental health.

But

putting the cart before the horse, pushing yourself to do something before you feel ready, populating your calendar with activities that bring you pleasure and meaning and joy.

So looking at your schedule for the week and putting those fun things in there.

I think fun has always been the thing that I put last, always.

Like family, friends, health, patients, work probably is first and then everything else, right?

But scheduling in joy as if your life depends on it, because it does.

Yeah.

So if I had to tell someone in less than five minutes, I was in a situation where it was the height of the pandemic.

It was April 2020 and New York City had reached its peak death toll.

And I get a call that Global Citizen is doing a program and it's going to be a one night live stream with all these famous Elton John and, you know, I don't know, Oprah and all sorts of J-Lo performing like a benefit concert.

And I was like, great, I'll be watching.

And they're like, no, we want you on the show.

And I was like, I don't sing and I don't dance and nobody want to see that, right?

Rolling Stones, like, you know, like one of those big performance benefits.

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