Dr. Zach Bush

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The Joe Rogan Experience · #2529 - Zach Bush · 22 Jul 2026 podcast

This is me.

I was at the height of my career, 17 years in academia.

I was creating chemotherapy.

And so I was getting paid as a medical doctor to sit in labs every day with cancer cells.

And try to poison them.

And what I found in the end was a family of molecules that didn't require any poisoning of the cell.

They actually nourished the cell.

And that's where my career pivoted hard was the sudden realization of like, why are we trying to poison these cancer cells?

And I think this is where we can begin to like back up together.

But I want to go back to a really important point that you held earlier because I don't want to – when I say everything is perfect because it is, I don't want to diminish the amount of suffering we're in.

The amount of suffering the sociopath is in who's going to be so –

extremely divorced from its natural system that it will think it reasonable to kill and behead somebody else.

That sociopath we can look at as the great problem with humans.

Humans would be just fine if we didn't have sociopaths.

That was how I was trained as a biologist and a medical doctor.

I was trained to believe that if there just wasn't cancer cells, we'd all be healthy.

We'd all live long if there just wasn't cancer.

And what I discovered over time, which is anybody who spends 17 years looking through microscopes down in the beauty and miraculous nature of biology is going to find this.

But in the end, you find out that a cancer cell is actually no invader at all.

It's actually the loneliest cell in a human body.

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