Duncan Hyde

And you just train like a motherfucker.

So what does Stephen Butler say?

Well, I haven't got to the end of it, but it will become... It's funny because I expect you to say like, yeah, man, fucking jump on the juice.

But then I read an article this week saying there's heaps of people, it's rife through gyms at the moment, and heaps of people have medical conditions off the back of it because they're just thumping the drugs and not doing the medical science behind it.

Yeah, so there's people that are doing it.

They become what they call grey labs.

So they're not...

they'll make these products and it says, basically for clinical experimental use only, that's what's written on the jars, which means that you can buy it and you put it into rats to test it because they can't put a, because peptides are created in your body, even synthetic versions of it, you can't lay claim to.

So the drug, big pharmaceutical companies can't lay claim to these peptides that they're making.

So therefore they make no fucking money.

which is why they've been dragged through all these different court processes.

But I've got mates that use them and they are fitter, healthier, looking better than ever before and have had zero downsides to them.

And they'll go through a cycle and they'll basically stop it for six months and then they'll do another cycle.

It's basically like taking your car in for a service, they reckon.

Well, do your own research.

Yeah, I mean, fucking look at us.

Do I look like a picture of health?

Have I taken them?

No, except for one small.

The one for muscular and cellular repair, they reckon you should do every year.