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Dwarkesh

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1735 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

OpenAI is already worth more than all of the car companies in the US except Tesla combined.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So if OpenAI today wanted to buy all the car factories in the U.S.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

except Tesla, start using them to produce humanoid robots, they could.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Obviously not a good value proposition today, but it's just obvious and overdetermined that in the future when they have superintelligence and they want them, they can start buying up a lot of factories.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

How fast can they convert these car factories to robot factories?

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So fastest conversion we were able to find in history was World War II.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

They suddenly wanted a lot of bombers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So they bought up, in some cases bought up, in other cases got the car companies to produce new factories.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

But they bought up the car factories, converted them to bomber factories.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

That took about three years from the time when they first decided to start this process to the time when the factories were producing a bomber an hour.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

we think it will potentially take less with superintelligence because, first of all, if you look at the history of this process, despite this being the fastest anybody has ever done this, it was actually kind of a comedy of errors.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

They made a bunch of really silly mistakes in this process.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

If you actually have something that...

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

even just doesn't have the normal human bureaucratic problems.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And we do think that this will be done in the middle of an arms race with China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So the government will be kind of moving things through.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And then the super intelligences will be good at the logistical issues, navigating bureaucracies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So we estimated maybe if everything goes right, we can do this three times faster than the bomber conversions in World War II.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So that's about a year.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Yeah, but the car factories of that time were also much less sophisticated than the car factories of our time.