Ella May Ding

Like nothing else is going to work properly if we're living in this high stress, high cortisol

zone day to day and he literally said like just because I'm like well what are the effects of this and he's like a fucking heart attack and I'm like great my chest is tight thinking about that like it's a real thing if like I'm in my 30s I'm young I'm healthy but obviously we know like sickness is something that accumulates over time and example like skin cancers are from 20 years ago a melanoma might have been there from our 20 year ago sun damage we did and we see it in our 50s

So it's like what we do now in our thirties and forties, you know, obviously our twenties as well, but I'm past that, that ship sailed.

Like it is so important for us to be doing all these things now so that we are around later and we aren't dealing with some kind of disease or condition or risk that can end in a fucking tragedy.

Yeah.

Oh, so it's just like far out.

It's actually crazy.

And you think about it so much more as a parent, I think.

And I think I said that recently, like sometimes I lie awake at night fucking thinking about dying and leaving Pia behind and it fucking sends me into a black hole.

Now, something else that he really did, I would say, like shared the most part on because it's obviously an area that he knows a lot about and something he's quite passionate about.

Now, we've always known that porn is a problem.

And I actually did speak to Australia's e-safety commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, at the end of last year and said,

The one thing I did take away was how little control we have over the big online giants.

and how the porn industry and the access kids have to this.

Do you ever find it really overwhelming to see how dark the internet can be and even what you just said, seeing conversations with kids in grade six?

Honestly, I had no idea it was this bad and that is scary.

Now...

I think about, you know, how porn has also changed a lot of dating and, you know, how young boys might think realistically in the bedroom, you know, being rough and choking and anal and all these things are normal when they're, I wouldn't say they're a very normal experience if you're a 14 or 16 year old girl, like having her first intimate experience.

And I think about Pia now and I'm like, fuck, man.

Like, it is really scary.