Elliot Williams

and the Boy Scouts had a case before me and they were being sued or suing somebody, I could not be, even if I were fair in my heart, I could not be seen as fair by the public based on the public position I'd taken on how I decorated my house.

And the Alito thing was exactly that.

So we've lost some of this veneer or notion that justices are or ought to be apolitical.

And it just seems to have gotten more extreme in the past years.

Yeah, it's interesting.

It's definitely whiplash and all of media is figuring out who they are and what their voices are in this world.

Now, on this idea of toughness versus submissiveness or whatever else, which is something fascinating that I've thought about quite a bit.

And quite frankly, stay with me for a second, in the immigration context too, so much of

what governs policy coming out of Washington right now is about the toughness and the masculinity and the aggressiveness.

You know, if you look at ICE's Twitter feed or Instagram feed, I don't know if you do.

I've seen it, unfortunately.

Namaste, Om.

I can't imagine you're,

you're a loyal follower, but no, it's all about how tough and how mean you can be to people.

And I get back to this point again and again and again, it's okay for there to be political differences, but cruelty and meanness is never okay no matter what the political party.

And by way of example, the thing in immigration policy that I think is just, of all the things to be mad about,

Removing people from the United States to countries that they're not from and don't live in.

I wish folks would stop and think critical, even Trump adjacent people would just stop and think about what that actually means.

And we as a nation, the law says that we can remove people from the country if they're not here lawfully.

That's been the law for quite some time.