Elliot Williams

And the Trump folks came in and said, well, because we ran on this necessarily, this is the way it has to be.

We got to get all these criminals out of here.

Even that fact is a huge distortion of the truth.

Of course, there are people who are unlawfully present in America who have broken the law.

Of course there are.

That does not mean that nanny at the abuela at the bodega is of the same status of somebody who has committed a rape or arson or a homicide.

And there actually aren't.

nearly as many of those folks that the Trump administration wants you to believe that there are.

And they've used this national security crime, racially coded, if not vuvuzela shouted racism to drum up support for what they're doing.

It does not have to be like that.

We can still enforce our laws and not have it be like that.

So I don't think that's scrapping the entire, like undoing the entire agency because what do you replace it with?

And if someone has a good idea for what to replace it with, I'm all ears for it.

But I think you just start over, maybe even break the whole Department of Homeland Security up because it's just such a behemoth that no one person can manage effectively.

You heard me.

It is.

And that's a great question.

When we talk about this idea of abolish, it has that budget because what they're talking about is removing or deporting a million people a year.

That's the budget they've given us.

You don't need to do that, right?