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Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

It's very resilient.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

You can modify it easily.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

If you want to attach something, you just weld it right on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So very easy to work with, very low cost.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

And...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

Now, like I said, at cryogenic temperature, similar strength to weight to carbon fiber.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

Then when you factor in that, we have a much reduced heat shield mass because the melting point of steel is much greater than the melting point of aluminum.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

It's about twice the melting point of aluminum.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So you can just run the rocket much hotter?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

Yes, especially for the ship, which is coming in like a blazing meteor.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

You can greatly reduce the mass of the heat shield.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So you can cut the mass of the windward part of the heat shield maybe in half.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

And you don't need any heat shielding on the leeward side.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

The net result is actually the steel rocket weighs less than the carbon fiber rocket, because the resin in the carbon fiber rocket starts to melt.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

Basically, the carbon fiber and aluminum have about the same operating temperature capabilities, whereas steel can operate at twice temperature.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

I mean, these are very rough approximations.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

People will... I won't build a rocket paper.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

What happens is people will say, oh, he said this twice.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

It's actually 0.8.