Emily Maitlis

We see all the major parties speaking out against Musk, all the major parties saying to Trump, actually, don't boss us around.

You know, you can do your war, we'll do ours.

And so there is, I think, a sort of belief that we will weather this.

It's a sort of core and fundamental belief, you know, for British people that we will not have our democracies dictated by other people.

But frankly, when there is so much money coming into this, money buys disinformation and it spreads disinformation.

And the more that you can tell people that their homes are being invaded and that they're not safe in their beds and that this wasn't a one-off crisis,

terrible terrible crime but it is kind of being repeated on a loop around the country which is in essence you know where this disinformation is is meant to be taking people it becomes a really hard battle to fight right you know you are you are up against a man who um

whose flotation is going to make him, you know, 1.75 trillion pounds or dollars, if the figure's right.

And I think it's a really big question.

How do you fight disinformation when it comes with that much wealth behind it?

The Island of Strangers speech was one that he regretted, I think, almost instantly.

And I think Starmer has been trying to find his level, as most mainstream politicians have, frankly, between...

understanding people's genuine concerns about the level of migration, particularly the level of illegal migration, what that might be doing to public services, and also trying to show leadership on an issue where there is so much disinformation circulating.

So, I mean, frankly, the fact that

This man, the perpetrator in Belfast, who has now been arrested and charged, came from Sudan.

Whether we like it or not will now open up a debate, I imagine, about how the UK responds to asylum seekers because the number of people from Sudan, from that dreadful civil war, the asylum policy has adapted to accommodate those people.

Now...

The Reform Party, the chairman, Zia Youssef, has made very clear that reform would say no visas to Sudan.

And it's not so long ago that we were hearing Trump's Muslim ban in 2017 when he said there are five countries.

I'm not going to give anyone visas if you come from there.