Emily Vernem

I so reckon it is.

No, he'd be a challenger, I reckon.

He'd have a wing.

He'd have an achiever wing, I'll tell you that.

He probably listened to that segment and was like, you know what?

She made some good points.

Even though she is just a girl.

I tried doing this and then I couldn't finish it because I started getting really anxious.

I found it very confronting.

It was triggering for you.

It was triggering for me.

I think it comes from when I used to do piano in school.

And I went through these like really strenuous examination processes, which gave me a huge complex.

And it was the reason why I stopped playing after I turned 18 was because these grades meant everything to you, like as a kid.

And you had to get a certain grade to move to the next level.

And you also had to be like, you couldn't be too old to be doing like a grade five exam.

And it was just like so difficult.

highly stressful and I hated it.

And it also felt like for a whole year you would work up to this one exam.

And then if you fail that exam, like it felt like that whole year was just a full waste.