Emma Grede

And I think that when you are a firm person, coming in with a level of understanding and appreciation for what every single person brings and delivers is a really good place because people feel seen.

And oftentimes the work isn't fair, right?

It never feels that way.

But if you feel that you're seen and you're appreciated and there is an understanding about what it is that you uniquely bring, then I think that that changes everything.

And I think that I get that.

And have gotten to where I've gotten to because people have an understanding that I wasn't given anything, that I worked for it and I appreciate them and I have an understanding of them.

And in that way, I think people work extremely hard for me and towards the things that I need because they feel that intrinsically.

No, well, first of all, the idea that you even think about it like that, I think is such an excellent starting point.

And what I wrote about in the book in Start With Yourself is this idea of not allowing yourself.

emotions to do your decision making.

And I think for a lot of women, that is like a default, right?

We are people pleasers.

We have a lot of fear connected to how we might be perceived or valued.

We have a lot of guilt, right?

Like mum guilt is an actual real thing.

And so in this book, so much of what I talk about is how...

emotions will kind of dictate your decision-making.

And I think that what I wanted to be able to convey is this idea that oftentimes women have been socially conditioned to avoid the exact behaviours that create wealth, that create visibility, that create leadership opportunities.

And men don't have quite the same...

kind of difficulties in expressing themselves or in managing their emotions, which doesn't impede their decision making in the same way.