Emma Grede

There's a sense of hunger.

Listen, you might need to go out and kill an animal.

I don't know where you came from.

There might not be any shops open.

It's like you've got to do what you've got to do.

But there's something amazing about...

doing, like making the best of yourself.

You know, there's something incredible when you go, God, like I came from here and now this is what life looks like.

Like that's incredible.

It just takes such a long time.

And I feel like, you know, again, I speak about this so much in the book because I feel like social media has kind of conditioned us into this idea that, you know, you can listen your way to success, that somehow you can consume your way to success.

And I'm like, no, you can't.

You've got to work.

You don't have any choice.

You know, you've got to like do something that you kind of don't like and get pretty good at it to be given an opportunity to do something that you like a little bit more and then eventually something that you really love.

But my experience is that it's always been that way.

It's always been incremental.

It's always been a little bit.

And I've got as much out of it as I've been willing to give.

But there's never been a moment where someone's gone like,