Emma Grede

So you have to come with me or that this is not going to work.

And thankfully he was up for that challenge, that romantic challenge that I gave him.

But that is, that is really important to me.

Like, it's like, I have been very purposeful about the life that I built and,

And I think it's my job to keep me moving forward, to always be in motion and to never kind of rest and imagine it's done.

I will never feel like that.

Yeah, I mean, I see it around me often.

You know, I never had, and this is hard for people to understand, I never had imposter syndrome and it was literally down to my mum.

My mum is like such a fierce lady.

You know, she is like five foot nothing.

She's like white and blonde and she has these like daughters that are like, you know, black with like big curly hair.

And my mum was fierce.

She was like, you are going to need to learn to look ugly.

After yourself.

And you have to know, Emma, that you're not better than anyone else, but nor is anyone better than you.

And I swear to God, Jefferson, I grew up my whole life thinking exactly that.

I was like, nobody's better than me.

Like literally, you could go to Eton or to Harvard, but you're not better than me.

And I really imagined that like I was I took it in.

And so in my head, I thought if I work really hard and if I throw everything that I've got at it, I can be as successful as anybody else.