Emma Grede

And then you can talk to me about what's going to happen.

Not that many.

But when you talk about curiosity as a superpower, you're talking about a deep, like you're going in and in and in, asking questions, taking meetings, because you don't come to those type of assumptions without deep understanding and knowledge.

That's right.

And then you're applying them and making money from them.

But it's been slow to take off here, right?

Because again, I have brands that are huge on TikTok shops.

And yet live shopping is something that we haven't quite cracked yet.

Yeah.

What do you think the next evolution is then when you look at what's happening in US commerce?

Is it just that you're looking at China and you're like, okay, whatever's happened there is going to pop off here?

So let's talk about that for a minute.

So there are so many people that listen to this podcast that think, you know, I've got something special.

I need to be making more money.

How do you, Gary Vee,

sit there and say, all right, you know what?

I'm going to try something.

I heard, I listened to Gary and he said that, you know, this whole online shopping thing is going to take off.

Like, what are the next steps?

By fucking doing it.