Eric Jorgensen

I loved when he had Joe Rogan shoot the bow at the car and it broke the window or it dented it or something.

Yeah.

And didn't he shoot a gun or something at the car and it broke the car window?

It didn't work, but everybody remembered it and bought more cars.

So it's almost like you can demo the thing and even if it doesn't work, people reward the risk.

Yeah, that's a good, really good lesson.

And I think, you know, we're even a visual medium where I'm, you know, online showing stuff a lot and we still don't do it enough.

You know, so often I fall back to the PowerPoint as opposed to showing the thing live.

It just takes a little bit more creativity.

actually, I don't think Elon gets enough credit for the creativity angle.

He gets a lot of credit for like brood force and then big missions.

But are there stories where you're like, wow, this man is actually incredibly creative as a storyteller or as a builder that you can think of?

Do you think that you should do side quests in life to be successful?

It seems like Elon has a lot of side quests from a flamethrower to a boring company tunnel.

I don't know if you know the answer to this, but like, given how intense he is, do his companies have crazy turnover?

Like, do people just churn and burn at his companies?

And does he care about something like that?

Yeah, I think so, too.

I also think, I mean, we found in our companies, we about triple every year.

And that's crazy, by the way.