Erik Matlick

We didn't have a complicated cash structure with preferred shares, all common shares.

There was no VC or private equity or anything like that involved.

So I was able to do that and prove that it would make sense to spin it out as a separate entity.

And at the time, by the way, we had no revenue.

you know, we're really, it was in its infancy.

It was a little bit more than an idea at that point.

No, no, they're doing great actually.

So we, I hired a CEO at the time.

I said, that was part of the plan was we're going to spin it out.

I'm going to hire a CEO who's,

Probably better than me at the current phase of the company to drive it to the next phase.

I feel that I'm really good at the idea of a startup, bringing product to market phase.

So I brought him in to be the CEO.

He then went on to run it for about two and a half years and then sold the whole business.

Oh, great.

And the whole business was sold.

What did it sell for?

Is it public?

It's not public, and I can't disclose the price, but there are articles.

I believe there's one in Fortune that talks about this.