EZ Zwayne

We're not people who understand how we were made and why we were made and how we're to function.

Even secular experts are now recognizing the harm of porn because for a long time it was, oh, it's fine.

You can find entertainment through it.

Hey, it may even help your sexual dynamics within marriage.

But they're realizing now it's harm and it's destruction.

So I would say to anybody, just like someone who may not be a Christian or have a spiritual bent who's doing drugs, I'd say you've got to get help.

You've got to stop.

You've got to recognize that

this is only gonna lead you down a pathway of a greater destruction.

And so I would encourage them as well to get others involved and to get help.

I mean, again, the bondage of sexual sin in many cases can exceed the bondage of heroin.

It can exceed the bondage of all sorts of chemical dependencies because it's that intense.

Because in a sense, there are chemical dynamics that are at work in it.

And so you've got to get help and you've got to recognize that help is available, but you've got to take those steps.

Well, in self-control, I think every parent, I have five, and I know the tendency when you come across something that's shocking is to fly off the handle.

You've gotta be careful that you deal with it delicately, but at the same time, deliberately.

I can't tell you how many parents I've talked to whose kids have dabbled with porn, but they still haven't taken extreme measures.

And so you have to take those extreme measures.

eight, nine, 10, 11 year olds shouldn't be running around with phones with internet access.

Well, yeah.