EZ Zwayne

And then parents are shocked.

Like, oh, I can't believe my kid is doing this.

It's like, what do you expect?

Because kids are a lot smarter than parents realize.

I've been educated by kids who have told me what they were doing to get around the system, how they were able to access pornography on apps you would think, what in the world does that have to do with porn?

But they're more media savvy or tech savvy than we realize.

And so you wanna be careful in giving them the opportunity to go in that direction.

And you do it in love, look,

The problem, Alex, is that parents are trying to tackle this when their kids are already entrenched in it.

So you have to have what I call, and I talk about it in my book, preventative preparedness.

You have to be determined to head off the dangers that lie ahead.

And so you've got to be proactive.

These are your children, your custodians of the children of God that he's entrusted in your care.

And you can't be lied about it.

I would say you kind of have kind of pre-talks, if you would, before you get to the main talk.

You talk to them about our propensity as people to be lured and tempted by things that are wrong.

You talk to them about desires that they might have that they could relate to even at a young age, 6, 7, 8, 9.

As they enter pre-teen years, you start to up it a little bit.

I'd say around 12, 13, you really open up that box in a deep way.

And you may even need to before that, depending on the circumstance your child is in.