Ezra Klein

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767 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 11 Sep

Ezra Klein’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

The amount of time in which Claude has been capable of doing high-level coding can be measured in months, a year? voice-verified

Maybe a year, yeah. voice-verified

Claude itself is a very valuable product. voice-verified

So you've set a very new technology somewhat loose on a very valuable product. voice-verified

You're probably producing more code. voice-verified

One thing many people say about Claude Code to me is that it works. voice-verified

It's not elegant, but it works. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

But presumably now you now understand the code base less well than you did before because your engineers are not writing it by hand. voice-verified

Are you worried that you're creating huge amounts of technical debt, cybersecurity risk, just an increasing distance from an intuition for what is happening inside the fundamental language of the software? voice-verified

You said it's everybody's problem, but you're ahead on facing this problem. voice-verified

And the consequences of getting it wrong for you are pretty high, right? voice-verified

If Claude blows up because you handed over your coding to Claude Code, that's going to make Anthropic look fairly bad. voice-verified

Yeah, seems bad. voice-verified

So... voice-verified

As you're facing this before the rest of us are, don't pass the buck over to society here. voice-verified

What are you doing? voice-verified

But is this world you're talking about, a system where you have AI agents coding, AI agents overseeing the code, AI agents overseeing the meta, overseeing, right? voice-verified

Like, are we just talking about voice-verified

models all the way down? voice-verified

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