Ezra Klein

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767 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 11 Sep

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: The A.I. Revolt Is Here · 11 Sep 2026 podcast

I use it a fair amount. voice-verified

I'm not sure I think it's a good thing for society, the way it is going. voice-verified

I don't want my kids using it. voice-verified

I know they'll be using it. voice-verified

Maybe it'll make things better, but I really don't know. voice-verified

I think that the costs are going to be very, very high for us relationally and economically. voice-verified

And so I'm very conflicted. voice-verified

do I want to live next to a data center? voice-verified

Yeah, no. voice-verified

it's voice-verified

Like that's easier. voice-verified

I voice-verified

most interesting things. voice-verified

Somebody is just making you do that. voice-verified

I would also maybe even take that a little bit further. voice-verified

I think that the way that not all of the AI companies, and I think Anthropic has largely been a good actor here, but many of them have acted, has opened up such a chasm between what they say and then how they act under pressure that one should be incredibly, incredibly skeptical of them. voice-verified

And what I mean by this is that voice-verified

You know, Sam Altman and all the different people, you know, in front of congressional testimony and in interviews will say, you know, it should not just be us making these decisions. voice-verified

There should be a real deep, small-D democratic role here in how AI rolls out, in, you know, what effects it has on communities and how it is governed. voice-verified

And then when a community or a politician who is representing a community tries to say, well, we don't want this data center here, or we want to impose these regulations, we have watched repeatedly these companies turn tremendous amounts of financial artillery voice-verified

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