Ezra Klein

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767 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 11 Sep

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: The A.I. Revolt Is Here · 11 Sep 2026 podcast

whoever is standing in their way, right? voice-verified

And to use the expertise and the money and the power they are amassing to voice-verified

To kind of short circuit that democratic voice. voice-verified

You did a big piece for The Times on the very widespread belief in Silicon Valley that they will create this underclass. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

What does the underclass mean to them? voice-verified

I'm pretty skeptical of this vision, although I don't rule it out, right? voice-verified

It might happen. voice-verified

Although I just don't think AI is going to be quite as revolutionary as a lot of these people think and will not diffuse into the real world as easily. voice-verified

But, you know, the thing you're going to need to adjust to any major technological change is time. voice-verified

And then also it's like the industry is like an all out war to make sure we have as little time for adjustment as voice-verified

And I just find it hard to like not that. voice-verified

I have had so many people at the top of these companies, right, the very tippy top, tell me they wish all this would slow down. voice-verified

I'm sure you have had them say this to you, right? voice-verified

But in this world where in their unguarded moments, they will say they wish all this was going slower. voice-verified

Well, one way to slow AI down is to constrict the number of data centers you can build. voice-verified

Just like you've done, you know, as good reporting as anybody on just how conflicted people even working for these companies seem to be about what they are building. voice-verified

they're in this competitive race to build it as quickly as possible. voice-verified

And so it makes them a pretty unconvincing pro faction. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

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