Fareed Zakaria

How do we organize and divide the pie?

but not of prospering.

We've created more wealth.

And we've got the dollar underpinning the world.

So the fundamental, to me, the fascinating thing is that the whole vision is premised on decline, decay, sclerosis.

Even the Venezuela thing, as you say, what they want to do is go from being the global hegemon that set the rules, that created the system, that maintains the system, to like a regional bully.

We give up to Putin, Ukraine, we give up Asia to China, and we get to boss over Venezuela and Mexico.

Isn't that great?

And it's like such a shrinking of American power.

Think about the difference.

As you say, you put it right.

They think coerced compliance is better than the kind of messiness of this alliance between democracies.

Because it's zero sum.

They have to have zero sum.

So look at the coerced compliance.

So China, we have something like 50 greedy allies in the United States.

And most of them are the richest countries in the world.

The Europeans, Japan, Australia.

China has one treaty ally, North Korea.

Let's throw in Russia.