Fareed Zakaria
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Yeah.
That is the only treaty ally they have.
I thought they had trade treaty allies, though.
They do have- But not defense.
I see what you're saying.
I mean, let's throw in Russia and let's throw in Iran.
Right, right.
Think of that.
They've got three, we've got 50.
And we want to give that up.
Yeah.
The theater is very important.
As you well know, Obama has probably still deported more people than Trump.
In other words, if you look at it month to month.
But they did that.
It was a different, they did do it at the border.
Exactly.
And they did it in a very different way.
But that's my point, which is-
In one case, they were almost trying to minimize the theater and maximize the effectiveness.