Fearne Cotton

I am probably too quick to pathologize my every move in life.

look at what happened in my childhood or whatever and try and make connections.

And how important do you think that is?

Is it for everybody?

Do you think everybody can change?

Because some people will go, oh, I'm just like this.

I'm just an anxious person.

It's quite humbling as well, isn't it?

Because if you realise you've got to change, you've got to have a look at the things you know aren't working, which is not always fun, but it's essential if you want to feel better.

And sometimes you quite like the things that aren't working.

Do you?

Oh, yeah, I love a little drink.

I had a period of sobriety.

I don't even know why.

But it made me even more hermit-like because I've got the propensity to just stay at home.

And actually, I love going out for dinner and having a couple of glasses of wine or a little cocktail and having a laugh and having that balance and not beating myself up the next day and just feeling a bit shit and it being okay.

Yeah.

That's been a bit of a readdress in my life recently of just like getting that balance back a bit and going, I just kind of want to have a bit of fun.

I agree.

I mean, we...