Fearne Cotton

very often here in many different ways that there is a mental health epidemic going on, that this is, or even the word crisis is used.

A, I guess, would you agree?

And B, what are your thoughts on that?

Why do you think we're in this mess?

Yeah.

I mean, what is our way out of it if there is such a thing at this point in time when technology is kind of more prevalent than ever?

Shrink Souls Murder by Philippa Perry.

This is such, it's so enjoyable.

I think having, fiction is so great because it is just pure escapism and it's such a great chance to ditch your life for a bit.

And I did put jokes in it.

Oh, it's really funny.

It's funny and it's, you know, I'm not good with any dark subject matters, but you've managed to create a book that actually feels really jolly alongside quite a shit subject.

I don't know, but I really like the sound of them.

We've got to have hope.

We've got to have a bit of hope.

Yeah, I think I'm naturally hopeful, but I do keep it in mind.

I think it's so important because when you're in a shit time, if it's not there, you're just like, what's the point?

What's the point?

You've got to have a bit of hope.

Yes, I love it.