Fernando De Leon

And so I think, yeah, it depends on who you're doing it for, right?

I bet in your relationship,

between you two, I bet that there is a feeling of accountability, of not wanting to let each other down, of wanting to pursue together in that journey.

So it's not entirely about you.

It's about both of you and about your family and a certain gratitude that you have for your parents in the effort they put to send you to good schools and to provide an environment.

You are

a function of those feelings, right?

You can't move those.

So I do think that having a cause for others and for yourself and for a company is massively inspiring.

And I look at our companies and

I bet a – I don't know how to quantify this, but a substantial part of my motivation to build a business is that the people that are there, I want them to have good lives.

I want to be supportive of their professional development.

Like I don't want them – I mean I feel like I'm obligated and I am accountable, and so we need to go row in that direction and make that company, that business successful.

Our initiative work.

And so I don't know that I think it depends on who the softer side to your on your question is, is about the people around you.

Who are you doing it for and why?

If it's I don't I suspect that if you're entirely self-centered, you probably don't have the leadership and the charisma to motivate others to come with you in building something.

If you're just self-absorbed and you don't have this softer side to ask others to come with you, how do you scale?

You have to be – I mean I'm sure there's plenty of people that control great technologies that can just be total jerks and don't care about anybody but themselves because their technology is great.

But I think for the most part for –