Gavin de Becker

Who's unnamed co-conspirators?

Unnamed co-conspirators could be 50 people.

It could be 75 people.

The guy who gave that sweetheart deal became the secretary of labor.

He was at that time the U.S.

attorney for Florida.

He was asked, why did you give that sweetheart deal?

Because the deal is ridiculous.

Unnamed co-conspirators will be exempt from prosecution.

And he said, I was told he belonged to intelligence.

And then he had to resign because of this.

There was a lot going on with Epstein.

The person who—I mean, there's so much of this, but the person who sort of brought Epstein into the world of power and got him his job at, I think, Morgan Stanley—I could have that wrong, but one of those big finance companies—was William Barr's father.

William Barr was the attorney general who was the U.S.

attorney general when Epstein was killed or died in prison, depending on your choice of—

So there's so much there.

But I won't be the first guest, Stephen, that you've had that says that it was an intelligence operation.

Why the U.S.

government is reluctant to be more transparent, some of it is national security.

Some of it is, let's imagine, an ally of ours is involved in that operation.