Gavin de Becker

So there's a reluctance and there's a question.

It's a little bit like UFOs.

Could the public handle it is the question that's always asked in these cases.

Meaning could the public handle it if, for example, the UK was running an intelligence operation inside the United States to control senators and congressmen and powerful executives and powerful figures and scientists?

Could we handle it?

Could the US public handle it?

My take personally?

Absolutely yes.

Yes.

Israel.

Yes, I do.

And Ghislaine Maxwell, just for additional background, but everybody can find it, her father was an Israeli intelligence asset who was so revered, his funeral ceremony was held in Israel.

was attended by the prime minister, by I think the last four or five, by every living head of Mossad attended.

And there were words used in eulogies like, he did things for Israel that the world will never know about.

There's a lot of good connection there and a lot of good connective tissue, some of which I've shared with you because it's public and some of which I'm not sharing.

But that is indeed what I believe, yes.

Not just me, by the way.

You might already be there, and you certainly had another guest sit here, a former CIA guy.

Kirikou, how do you say his last name?

Yeah.