Gavin de Becker

So where it is, I don't know.

Does the U.S.

government have it?

Does somebody else have it?

I just don't know the answer.

But I know from very direct information regarding the island and the apartment, I don't know about New Mexico.

I just don't happen to know.

another house that he owned, that there were cameras and then eventually audio.

Audio was added.

Oh, also testimony, by the way, pardon me, testimony from girls who said, girls who worked there and visited there a lot, who said that in a small room to the right of the front door was a whole thing of videos where the recording was done.

Sure.

You know, blackmail is not always done by calling you up and saying, you know, hey, Stephen, I'm going to hurt you in the following way if you don't do A, B or C. The other version is far better, which is even alluded to in some of the now released material, which is he calls and he says, Stephen.

I've got terrible news.

You remember you had that massage from Cindy?

You know, that girl, Cindy.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I remember she recorded something.

She had something in her bag.

She made a recording.

And I got worse news, Stephen.