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Gavin de Becker

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

Nothing will work reliably.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

There is no solution to that problem that is reliable.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

Yeah.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

There are devices sold.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

There's all variety of things.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

But the reality is that even if something worked, even if I said to you, here's this cool new such and such phone that will protect you, it will only protect you for a while because there's a constant effort to improve the exploits.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

And also, I have to say, people are โ€“

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

somewhat reluctant and maybe even lazy.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

I'll put myself on the list and I'll put you on the list without even knowing you.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

We're all not as careful as we could be in terms of what we say, what we text.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

And I have a dear friend and client who every text and every email that he sends also goes to his executive assistant.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

And everybody knows it.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

And what happens is it controls and influences his behavior.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

So when you send me that off-color joke that I wouldn't want to see on television, he responds differently.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

He doesn't say, oh, that's great, and add another topping line on top of it.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

Because he knows that his assistant in the other room is seeing that.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

And so the best we can all do...

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

is be watchful what we say and have no pretense of privacy or confidentiality because it simply does not exist, period.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

The U.S.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

government got into the phones of all of our allies, prime ministers, chancellor of West Germany, prime minister of England, president of France.