General Sir Patrick Sanders

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The General & The Journalist · How Putin made North Korea richer – and more dangerous · 19 Aug 2026 podcast

What has fueled this this economic growth?

And you know, the common narrative that one reads is that Russia has become North Korea's economic lifeline.

Since the invasion of Ukraine.

How transformative has that relationship really been?

I mean I remember being absolutely astonished when we saw that strategic partnership being signed.

most of us assumed that Russia would be the senior partner, but but two years on

Who's actually extracted more value from the relationship?

Who who got the better deal?

As the axis of autocracy is right there.

That's really interesting because it implies, you know, when you shed blood alongside a partner or an ally, as you know, we've done with the United States for some time, it it creates bonds.

And I guess that has a bearing on the variable geometry, the sort of triangular relationship between China, North Korea and Russia.

You know, China h historically has always been North Korea's indispensable patron, you know, often a liability rather than an asset.

But has has Russia now become a genuine alternative, or is Beijing still really the only country that matters to Kim Jong un?

Let's talk about the crinks, the so called crinks or the the axis of autocracies.

W how seriously should we take it?

I mean, you gave a really good example, a really powerful example of what it looks like in action.

Are we overstating it or is it simply uh my enemy's enemy is my friend?

me, Dominic O'Connell, for conversations from the world of business and entrepreneurship.

That's quite an alarming picture because what you're saying is that the the North Koreans have I uh heard you right, the North Koreans actually have developed some pretty advanced military technology without any external help.

And they've now got the Russians who can do technology transfer for them.

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