General Sir Patrick Sanders

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1,311 appearances 12 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 2 Sep

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The General & The Journalist · The new Middle East: The battle to shape a region · 26 Aug 2026 podcast

So see back, you're you're talking about this earlier on, but but throughout the book, you're you're you're describing a Middle East that

Almost seems as if it's becoming less Middle Eastern, and you you point

To the danger of I think you call it conflict fusion.

So there's this idea of, you know, Ukraine's experience being used to defend against Iranian missiles, Russian technology supporting Iran and along with intelligence, you know, Turkie, as we must call it now, projecting power into several adjoining theaters in Africa, you know, Gulf states becoming moving from becoming sort of boutique.

Petro states into actual genuine military states, you were talking about Sparta and then even Pakistan, you know, increasingly bec becoming involved.

And in the book you talk about this idea of of six different theatres of conflicts or potential conflicts that are beginning to converge, you know, on the Middle East.

Can you just explain?

So you end the book on a note of hope, you know, after five hundred pages of explaining why the Middle East is a cauldron of war, death, and dynamite.

I mean, what gives you confidence that it doesn't have to remain a cauldron?

What what gives me confidence is

Well that's a great note to end on, Seabag.

Um thank you so much for taking some time to come in.

Thanks for having me.

This has been fun.

So thanks for listening and do send in any of your questions to general and journalist at the times.co.uk.

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So until next week, thanks Tom.

Thanks, Patrick.

The General & The Journalist · How Putin made North Korea richer – and more dangerous · 19 Aug 2026 podcast

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