Ginny Andersen

Are you asking Mark that or are you asking me?

Oh, I thought you were asking Mark that.

So for a start, the way that the cost of living support that this government has done, even if someone's working part-time, they get zero.

So we've already said that those people who can't afford right now to buy food, more action could have been taken in that space.

In what way?

The existing level of tax.

Well, I can't make policy up right here and now, Mike.

You know that.

Well, no, see, that's why I'm asking, Jenny, because, I mean... No, but you asked me.

No.

Help me out.

Let me finish.

Because you're asking me the impossible.

You said, what will we do?

And in the example where the government did take some action and provide cost of living support, those people that even worked part-time got nothing.

They only gave it to the people who were working.

And so there's an example where Labour would have taken a closer look and thought, if there's people who can't afford food and can't afford to get to their part-time work, we would have taken more action in that space.

Not one family got that extra support.

That's exactly right.

And while we've delivered policy on future fund, cost of living with doctor's fees, all the others with CPs.