Hal Puthoff
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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It's sort of like you've got a door and you drill a hole through and then drill another hole through and another hole through and then finally the door crumbles and then you've got a pretty good feeling for what the sign is. So the process that we use to train people involves this multi-stage process where they're to go by feelings, colors, flashes of things.
You see a flash of piece of metal, don't try to turn it into a car or a bicycle or whatever. So it was a whole training procedure that we developed. And eventually when we briefed the assistant chief of staff for intelligence, assistant director of intelligence for the Army, They said, okay, well, then we need to have our people get involved in learning how to do this.
And so they sent Army intelligence officers. They picked out a bunch of them and said, hey, you've just volunteered to become a psychic spy. And they said, well, okay. And they sent them out to SRI, and we ran them through this step-by-step training procedure. And they learned to do really, really well.
I mean, Joel McMoneagle, who – anyone who follows the literature is known to be really an excellent remote viewer. And so – To give you an example, one time he said, I mean, we trained them, and so they learned to do really well. We set up a whole program. And he said, okay, there's this site in the Soviet Union, and they're making this unbelievably giant submarine.
And it's made out of titanium or something. I mean, it's bigger than any submarine that anybody's ever heard of. And it's strange because the missile silos are on the top rather than along the sides and so on. He gave this whole description. Of course, we had to – at that time, we were briefing all the way up to National Security Council. So they looked at this. This is nonsense.
But about a month later, out rolls this unbelievably giant submarine, the Typhoon-class submarine, the largest submarine ever made. Indeed, there are his sketches and a lot of description that went along with his sketches. Wow. And there's a submarine on the right. And so finally the people of the National Security Council said, okay, we better start taking this seriously.
So to make a long story short, he eventually, Joe McMoneagle, got a National Merit Award for over $200,000. Great viewings he did for CIA, National Security Council, FBI. I mean, you name it. So anyway, they grew into a whole industry.
Is that a fair assessment? That's a fair assessment. I mean, when we, as physicists, we hate to say, oh, don't have a clue. So, well, we now know there's so-called quantum entanglement, which is that things seem to be connected at a quantum level across great distances. And so the easy answer is, well, it must be quantum entanglement. But, you know, that's just words.
It doesn't really tell us how it works. But to give you an example, we wondered how far you could go. So he did an experiment, again, with Ingo Swann, who was such a really top-level remote viewer, to view Jupiter, planet Jupiter, before the flyby. before the NASA flyby. And so he did. And he described Jupiter the way anybody might, you know, red spot and all that kind of stuff.
But he said, but there's a thin ring around Jupiter. I wonder if I went to Saturn by mistake, but I really see a ring around Jupiter. And nobody knew about any ring around Jupiter. Carl Sagan happened to come by in the lab and said, oh, what do you think of this? We got this result. He said, ring around Jupiter, that's nonsense. There's no...
But when the NASA flyby finally got there, it turned out there was a ring, a small ring around Jupiter. And so we got that in publication in a book we wrote about all this stuff before it was known in the scientific community. So that's what we find out, that apparently even distances is not a big deal. The other thing we wondered, I can tell you what it isn't. We thought maybe it was brainwaves.
The Russians came up with an idea. Well, brainwaves, low frequency, long wavelength, they can seemingly get through some aspects of the environment.
So we came up with a series of experiments, and one of them was, okay, let's put our remote viewers on submarines, take them into the depths of the ocean, because it turns out seawater is highly conductive, and so even at low frequencies, even at brainwave frequencies, it would be a complete shield for that.
So we piggybacked on somebody else's experiments, Stephen Schwartz's experiments using remover to go find archaeological wrecks and shipwrecks and so on, which turned out to eventually be a successful experiment. But anyway, we got to do two experiments. We got pristine results, even with them under there, under the ocean water. So we know it's not ordinary electromagnetic functioning.
So we can strike one thing off the list, not that we know what to put on the list in its place, other than it's got to be some new field, some quantum aspect that we don't understand yet.
But we could repeat it. I'll give you another example of that. The skepticism that we got – and by the way, I can't blame them. We had some psychologists at SRI and they said, you've got that stupid ESP experiment stuff going on and this is going to ruin our reputation. People think that we're a nonsense place and so it's hurting our reputation.
Of course, they didn't know it was a highly classified CIA program. So anyway – So our director said, well, what do you think? I mean, how would you know if this is false or whatever? And he said, look, make a list of all experiments, places that have been investigated, gone to as targets, and then give us the transcripts that were generated for those viewings. And...
Don't tell us which ones go with which ones. And we'll try to rank them for each place. And so they did that. Much to their chagrin, seven of the nine were first place matches in a nine experiment series. Give you another example of – and by the way, I can't complain about the skepticism. I mean even as we're doing all this, we haven't lost our skepticism about how could this be.
But we finally – we got into a spot where the only thing that was secret about this program was that it was secret. People heard that we had these people coming in and doing experiments, but we weren't publishing anything. So I went to the CIA contract monitor and said, you know, you've got to let us publish something because the only thing secret about this project is there's a secret project.
So if we publish something, that'll handle that.
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