Hal Puthoff
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first heard May 2025
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Yes, that was our personal aspect.
And that's reasonable to think that way. And so in this case where we got permission to publish something. Since we're engineers, Russell Targ, my colleague, and I are engineers and physicists, we wrote it up for the proceedings of the IEEE, Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. This is an engineering journal where we had published technical papers.
So I said, well, we have a better chance there. Sent it off to them. The editor was head of communications at Bell Labs. And he comes back and says, well, I don't know. And we said, why, are you getting bad reviews? And he says, well, actually, I'm getting good reviews.
But one really heavy hitter just gave me a one-sentence review saying, this is the kind of thing I wouldn't believe in even if it were true. What does that mean? So anyway, we said, look, I understand your problem. Look, let us come and present this stuff to your engineers. If they throw tomatoes, okay, don't publish our paper. But if they like it, then publish it.
So we went to Bell Labs, presented our data. The engineers were all excited, trying to figure out what the mechanism could be and so on. So we figured we were home free. So then we pull out our trump card, as always, which is, okay, look. Do your own experiments at Bell Labs. Pick people from your engineers. Pick people from your offices to make up lists of targets.
Pick people here to be your blind match group to see if they can match them up. And if you get results like we got, then publish it. If you don't, don't, he said. Okay, that's fair. So it turns out he did the whole thing, got the same kind of results we got. Our paper got published, 1976 Proceedings of the IEEE.
And so that suddenly got other people saying, okay, well, maybe there really is something to this. So it turns out that... For those who follow the field know that Robert John and Brenda Dunn, Robert John was head of engineering at Princeton. He had a student who wanted to do these kind of experiments, and he thought it was nonsense. But they came out and heard our briefing, and he went back.
Long story short, he set up a 20-year program there. completely replicating our remote viewing work and also doing effects on random number generators that were quantum driven. And so the so-called PEAR lab, Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Lab, replicated all of our work. And so pretty soon it's all over the place.
So, by the way, at the end of the sort of Cold War there where there was a detente, some of our remote viewers went over to Russia to talk to their remote viewers and they traded war stories. They lived through the same kind of thing. So there it is.
That could have happened. I mean, it was really, you know, the tiniest flip of a coin that that happened. So what that means is, for me personally, is that even though I had no interest in all that kind of stuff, this totally random event happened. And then once I built up a reputation for being willing to take on things that are impossible...
Then that's why when the UAP, the UFO issue kind of rose up again, who are you going to call? Al Putoff. I get my call.
Well, there was an early introduction in 2004. Well, maybe a little earlier in the 90s, I was doing work for Robert Bigelow at Bigelow Aerospace. And in addition to his aerospace stuff, he put two units circling the Earth, and he made the – module that got attached to the space station and all that kind of stuff. But he was also very much interested in UFOs and that kind of thing.
And so I was involved with him. And around that time, I had gotten a call from somebody I knew in Washington, D.C., head of a think tank, I can't name him, but he said, I need you to come to Washington to be part of a little project, a little briefing. And I said, no, I don't have the time right now. I'm just too busy.
He says, look, come and it will be the most important meeting you've ever had in your life. Well, since I had him calibrated because I had done other work with him for the Navy and so on, I said, okay, I'll come. So I showed up there, and I saw people, some of whom I knew, including my ex-contract monitor from CIA, people from DIA, a lot of military people and so on.
So he sat us all down and said, okay, here's the deal. Here's why I've invited you all here. Let's just say, he says, that the United States, Russia, and China have obtained... E.T. craft that have crashed and we have proof of that. Bodies that aren't human And so the question is, can this be released to the public? What effect would it have?
So I and the other people, I found out by talking to him later, we thought, oh, this is cool. I mean, maybe we can get some kind of disclosure here. And so he said, here's what we're going to do. We're going to make up a list of what would be affected in the culture with this kind of a disclosure.
And by the way, at this point, we still didn't know, is he saying that that's true stuff or is this a hypothetical? Anyway, make a list. So we came up with a long list, like, I don't know, 60 items or something. You say, oh, well, stock market might be affected. Religions might be affected. You know, whatever. Government. Government affected. Policies be affected.
You know, politics would certainly be affected. And then for each item, we had to go give it a score from plus nine to minus nine as to how intense the effect would be and whether it's positive or negative. So we broke up into groups and our group had our list of eight or so. So we went down our list and it turned out that we ended up getting net negative numbers.
And let me tell you why you can get negative numbers. One of the things down toward the bottom of the list, and we really got into the weeds was, well, suppose materials from a crash retrieval of a non-human craft was given to Corporation A, but Corporation B didn't get any samples. And then years later, Corporation A is making lots of money based on what they got.
Meanwhile, Corporation B has gone bankrupt. And then they find out they were excluded. Well, they're going to end up suing the corporations, suing the government. I mean, it really gets gnarly when you get into the weeds and into the details. As it turns out, with our group of eight or so, we said, you know, we get a negative number. Well, it turned out that all the groups got negative numbers.
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