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Totally.

And I think another reason why I'm having trouble kind of resonating with this is because I'm not one to be like, I'm going to do this in five years.

And this is what I just kind of like go with the flow and just keep making little progress, little progress until it ends up being something big.

So I feel like I do probably have my nose to the ground a bit, which helps me stay grounded, I guess.

Totally.

So I'd love to get to those six principles that you researched so diligently for your book.

They're super interesting.

The first two have to do with presence and patience.

Patience is something that I really have a problem with.

So if there's anything from your book that I really learned from was this patience thing, because I have zero patience.

So I'd love to hear about those first two principles.

I love that analogy.

That's so good.

So I did skip around.

I missed the first principle and that's acceptance.

And I think it's super important for us to discuss this as well.

So you really have to accept where you are to end up going where you want to go.

So can you tell us about that?

Yeah.

So I interviewed Ethan Cross.