Hampus Jakobsson

We actually built the complete design team for Google Android.

I worked with Andy Rubin in Mountain View.

Oh, wow.

It was like a super awesome time because mobile was so nice and it was so young.

But the crazy thing was like 18 months sales cycle.

But then again, $5 million annual contract and plus on top of that was like three, four million professional services to integrate and do things.

So huge, huge agreement, but long, long lead times.

And then we knew what manufacturers were kind of compatible with us, like that were possible.

And BlackBerry wasn't one of them.

So we never even tried reaching out to them.

It was meaningless.

And actually the Canadian ambassador in Sweden, because we're in Sweden, constantly reached out to us like, oh, you got to meet BlackBerry.

You got to meet BlackBerry.

And we just like, sorry, we can't work with them.

We're technology not compatible.

And then one day I was out jogging on the beach.

I was totally manic about barefoot jogging at the time.

I was counting my cadences running.

And then my phone was going off.

I was like...