Harrison Wind

And yeah, I mean, do guys kind of deal with it and pain control?

Yeah.

I mean, I deal with this in the NFL all the time.

The things I do for players pregame and leading up to the game to help these guys play.

Yeah.

A lot of them probably wouldn't play if we didn't intervene now, 82 games versus 17 games, right.

That's a big difference.

So yeah,

You can empathize with these guys, but at some point, they have shared decision making.

In other words, there could have been a doc saying something, and Christian may be like, I don't want it, because there are solutions for unstable ankles.

Yeah.

painful ankles from a ligament sprain that just hasn't gotten better.

I mean, my partner, Dr. Aaron Mates, who helps me with the Broncos, he's a superstar at that.

I mean, he would fix that up and no problem.

But again, shared decision, you know, with the player.

No.

Look, I looked at my data years ago.

85% of the patients that walk into my clinic don't need surgery from me.

I can figure out a way to treat them.

So 15% end up with surgery.